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Hey mock ye not, there’s a method to what some would see as madness compared to the large arbor reels?
I now use my Marquis as I’ve found that large arbor reels have an annoying habit of flipping the line over the other side of the reel which could cost a fish in the dark.
What is the thought behind the design of large arbour reels? Function?? a double question mark or weight saving umm! no!. A slightly better drag when a fish takes out 30 yards of line, possibly, fashion, yes! I have caught approximately 1300 sea trout and have not used a large arbour reel. The only real advantage of a large arbour reel is the result of slightly less fly-line memory for fly-line manufacturers who cannot make a fly-line without any memory. This is less of a problem when fishing down and across on rivers than fishing upstream or on a lake where you need a tight line. I have constructed fly-lines that have no stretch and no memory, something that the mainstream manufacturers have failed miserably to do.
 
What did the Romans ever do for us? Roads, sanitation, medication education, public order, irrigation, public health, wine, large arbor fly reels which offer quicker retrieve for less winds of the fly reel handle, fly line sits on reel in larger coils which the laws of material physics dictates should introduce less memory into the fly line which should reduce its tendency not sit straight on water. It may also be worth noting for the record that a fly reel with an open cage that has a poor tolerance fit between the cage on the spool and the rim on the reel body can and in every likelihood will have the flyline drag outside it. This has absolutely nothing at all to do with the size of the arbor. We should not however let facts stand in the way of nonsense and pure unadulterated bullshit be it gut eyed or indeed any other :LOL:
 
Yes, I use a mixture of Koma and Kassette spools 7/8 (bought a few when they were available at a fiver)
Also use the same in 10/11 for light double handers as they are very light. Very easy to service and maintain.
Richard
I've been using Vision Koma reels for years both on reservoirs/lakes and for night fishing for sea trout. Never let me down, quiet, drag runs smooth and reliable etc. Can;t fault them to be fair. They used to be really cheap but the price has crept up over the years, including spare spools unfortunately. I think there were recent deals at Uttings for the 5/6 and 7/8 version reel.
 
Hi guys, I use Airflo Switch Pros for nearly all my sea trout and reservoir fishing. Large arbor reels with 5 cassette spools each and a smooth drag that would probably stop a whale. The clicker is fairly quiet and you can make it silent with a screwdriver. The increased rate of retrieve on a large arbor reel is actually very similar to that on geared/multiplayer reels (I used to use Speedex), plus you get all the line storage benefits TBLJS mentioned above. Honestly, what is not to like with large arbor? The cassette spools do take slightly longer to change as you have an extra step involved, but adding some Vaseline to the internal diameter of the cassette allows it to slide over the rubber O-ring a little easier and faster. I guarantee I waste more time staring into fly boxes.
 
What did the Romans ever do for us? Roads, sanitation, medication education, public order, irrigation, public health, wine, large arbor fly reels which offer quicker retrieve for less winds of the fly reel handle, fly line sits on reel in larger coils which the laws of material physics dictates should introduce less memory into the fly line which should reduce its tendency not sit straight on water. It may also be worth noting for the record that a fly reel with an open cage that has a poor tolerance fit between the cage on the spool and the rim on the reel body can and in every likelihood will have the flyline drag outside it. This has absolutely nothing at all to do with the size of the arbor. We should not however let facts stand in the way of nonsense and pure unadulterated bullshit be it gut eyed or indeed any other :LOL:
No idea what the Romans did, since they gave my home town of Colne a wide berth on account of it being full of a backward rougher version of the Brigantines (true enough).
Anyway for what it’s worth the poor fitting cage and spool is one of the problems I have with the Gudline
 
Hey mock ye not, there’s a method to what some would see as madness compared to the large arbor reels?
I now use my Marquis as I’ve found that large arbor reels have an annoying habit of flipping the line over the other side of the reel which could cost a fish in the dark.
I've a few large arbour reels Andy and never had a problem with them, I've one on the switch rod, an Okuma Airframe.

What I like about the Gearfly reel it's a multiplier added to that it's a noisy reel which I prefer.
 
I've a few large arbour reels Andy and never had a problem with them, I've one on the switch rod, an Okuma Airframe.

What I like about the Gearfly reel it's a multiplier added to that it's a noisy reel which I prefer.
Yes I do think it’s what TB & silver mentions about the cage and spool. Might just be bad technique but I often end up with the line flipping over the rod and rod butt. Aesthetically I like the sound of a Hardy😂
 
To any of you out there who have issues with line 'flipping over the rod' there is a very simple solution. Reduce the speed at which you are attempting to make your forward stroke will help at least part. If it solves the issues then all well and good but if not then add the second part of the solution which is to form a ring with your finger and thumb just in front of the reel as you deliver your line. This has the effect of creating a temporary rod ring. Either one of theses techniques should stop line from wrapping around the rod. Used both together I can pretty much guarantee it. The cause is actually flawed casting technique and has absolutely nothing to do with a reel being a cassette type or the size of the arbour.
 
What did the Romans ever do for us? Roads, sanitation, medication education, public order, irrigation, public health, wine, large arbor fly reels which offer quicker retrieve for less winds of the fly reel handle, fly line sits on reel in larger coils which the laws of material physics dictates should introduce less memory into the fly line which should reduce its tendency not sit straight on water. It may also be worth noting for the record that a fly reel with an open cage that has a poor tolerance fit between the cage on the spool and the rim on the reel body can and in every likelihood will have the flyline drag outside it. This has absolutely nothing at all to do with the size of the arbor. We should not however let facts stand in the way of nonsense and pure unadulterated bullshit be it gut eyed or indeed any other :LOL:
I've never owned or tried a cassette reel but I would imagine they are very handy for use on places like Rutland etc.
I personaly cant see any use for them in either salmon or sewin fishing in daylight or darkness. As Geoff said salmon fishing on most rivers shooting heads are by far abetter option and as for changing a spool or cassette in the dark while chasing sewin why bother when most of the time all you need is 2 rods 2 reels and a range of tips.
BTW Geoff I find the ignore button very usefull in situations your last sentence describes.;)
 
BTW Geoff I find the ignore button very usefull in situations your last sentence describes.;)
Steve, I will confess to having a major weakness in lack of restraint when readings things which are plainly wrong or clearly just made up out of thin air. I am sure that the majority of us on here at some point recoil in fits of laughter or fits of horror at what is sometimes posted. I will also confess to being insanely jealous at your own sense of restraint. If you have any to spare please send it to me. I really do need it ;) ;) ;)
 
Steve, I will confess to having a major weakness in lack of restraint when readings things which are plainly wrong or clearly just made up out of thin air.
I do try hard not to jump in with two feet but sometimes a canny help it, so on that count your Honour, I'd be guilty. 🙈🤣
 
I like the cassette reels, I have Wychwood SLA or SL2 (can't remember) but they are robust and no issues. Spare spools are lighter and less room but I rarely take them out of the pick-up. I may take one spool or set up a second rod. You fish with what you have and are happy with, there are no rules.

The only real constant for me is lots and lots of orange Lucozade. This is of course a cardinal rule for obvious reasons. I also only ever carry a single rod. This is not a rule but it is a choice. No longer having to carry a fingerprick blood glucose meter has proven a massive game changer for me. This applies to my fishing and every other aspect of my daily life.
 
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