[stoatstail]

I’m never without the black n silver stoat with JC cheeks and the only reason I didn’t list it is because it didn’t fall under a generic trout fly imo?
The other pattern I’ve not mentioned that beats the blue n silvers into a cocked hat is the Peter Ross. It’s a killer for big wild browns that are minnow bashing and out of all the flies the Peter Ross be it on small hooks or a spruced up version I used to make on a Waddington with a peacock sword wing has brought me more early June fish than any other fly.

Whatever made the Alexander so controversial is what I feel about the Peter Ross.

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That's why I plumbed the the black and peacock.
Stoats and silver stoats are classic salmon and seatrout flies but not really classed as trout classics.
A bit strange really because they have probably caught as many trout as they have migratory fish over the years, albeit unintentionally.

 

[weatherman]

There's also the Butcher range of flies including the Kingfisher & Bloody versions. I think there are many more that we can assume to have had successful results in taking seatrout on occassions.

 

[dj33]

Another generic trout fly worth a mention is the Connemara Black. Catches it's fair share of almost anything. Seatrout, salmon, brownies & rainbows

Had a few on connemara black, also I've done well on a bibio

 

[sewinwrestler]

Appetiser.

 

[Richard]

How about a black & silver missionary, for low water, probably daytime?
Richard

 

[weatherman]

Anything Black & Silver well deserves a space in my flybox....used with confidence.

 

[Andy B]

There's also the Butcher range of flies including the Kingfisher & Bloody versions. I think there are many more that we can assume to have had successful results in taking seatrout on occassions.

I used to target large night feeding browns in my local river with all those butcher type lures. Good call

 

[weatherman]

There's a book by the late Tom Stewart entitled Two Hundred Popular Flies, there are a variation of patterns listed that are primarily trout flies but do double at being successful for the prince of darkness.

 

[Andy B]

There's a book by the late Tom Stewart entitled Two Hundred Popular Flies, there are a variation of patterns listed that are primarily trout flies but do double at being successful for the prince of darkness.

There’s a fly I remember seeing on the cover of T&S book on flies? The fly was used on the Tweed for Sea Trout and Grilse and I’ll never forget as it had a pair of Jay coverts tied in upright for the wing, making it a stunning looking fly. Never been able to find out what it’s called? Apparently the rivers Tweed and Tyne don’t fish well at night for sea trout and I believe that the majority of sea trout are taken in the daytime. Took me a few years to catch my first Sea Trout by trial and error, mainly errors in presenting those wee doubles too high in the water for those bigger earlier fish.
Come July though in warmer, low water I still use a team of traditional flies with mucilin on the end of my fly line and on its day it’s still mighty effective

 

[Fergal1975]

 

[Fergal1975]

There’s a fly I remember seeing on the cover of T&S book on flies? The fly was used on the Tweed for Sea Trout and Grilse and I’ll never forget as it had a pair of Jay coverts tied in upright for the wing, making it a stunning looking fly. Never been able to find out what it’s called? Apparently the rivers Tweed and Tyne don’t fish well at night for sea trout and I believe that the majority of sea trout are taken in the daytime. Took me a few years to catch my first Sea Trout by trial and error, mainly errors in presenting those wee doubles too high in the water for those bigger earlier fish.
Come July though in warmer, low water I still use a team of traditional flies with mucilin on the end of my fly line and on its day it’s still mighty effective

I have the book at home, I'll check the name when I get back

 

[Andy B]

I have the book at home, I'll check the name when I get back

Fantastic Fergal. I’ve mentioned this before on other forums with no success and yes that’s exactly the fly I was on about 👍

 

[Fergal1975]

Fantastic Fergal. I’ve mentioned this before on other forums with no success and yes that’s exactly the fly I was on about 👍

 

[Andy B]

Good man when the T&S was really good with Sandy Leventon

 

[Fergal1975]

I loved that wee book when I was a kid. I tied so many flies from it.

 

[Fergal1975]

Must try this fly, I have some jay at home

 

[Andy B]

Must try this fly, I have some jay at home

I never made one when I was into fly tying since I could never find the pattern. Nonetheless this fly has been in my head ever since I came across in T&S, since it looks so Regal and other than the built feather winged salmon flies it’s so unusual to see Jay coverts set as a wing. I’m sucker for Jay and Jungle cock n all.
Would love to see someone have a bash at this and post a pic?

 

[Fergal1975]

I'll give it a try tonight if I get a chance